Thanks for the posting Neil, and the sentiments. I have been busy over the last few weeks with work, water changing and getting ready for my piano exam (yes, guys my age do take piano lessons!) I have also been putting together a database in lotus approach to record my fish, tanks, water changes, water tests, filter media changes etc. in the hope that I can put it on here as a download for you guys to use. Will start putting in a few more postings of photos and my erudite (sic) thoughts in the very near future. I promise, too, to add in a photo or two of your geos. The biggest is about 4 1/2" long now and appears to be semi-interested in spawning. I should be getting my 7 foot tank in the next couple of weeks, and they are destined to end up in there (in about 3 month's time). Please keep us up-to-date. By the way, if you are still wanting some of my Carpintes, please let me know. Steve